Bill Covert

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  Jehovah's Witnesses as medical records employees, and Medical Privacy laws.

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  this subject has been brought up before.

  the governing body and watchtower have repeatedly encouraged jws to show loyalty to the organization to "keep the congregation clean" by reporting wrongdoing to the elders.. i know directly of two cases.

  two jws working in the records department of our local hospital "outed" 3rd gens 1st husband to the local elders when he and his mistress sought medical treatment together for stds.

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  Read Barbara Andersons article " Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminals" on her site.
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  Alternate military service pre and post 1996 witness policies. Please comments.

  by benny in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what are the thoughts on the changes made by the society in the 1996 watchtower [new light] where one can then accept alternate army service where before you would have to be sentenced to do this.

  i feel many were sent to prison needlessly or even executed.

  this was not a matter of conscience as the watchtower claims..

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  "Community service in lieu of military induction was a compromise of Christian conscience!"

  I did not get prison but a $3,000 fine [ Sacramento Ca. US judge was a huge fan of Abraham Lincoln , as seen by portraits in his office, it cost $300 to buy your way out of army during Civil War factor in inflation hence $3,000] and am a felon. 1968.

  Some who took community service got disfellowshipped.
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  Fifty years ago today: One quote to demolish the Watchtower

  by JeffT in

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  i did not have any connection to jw's when they published this, about two weeks before i graduated from high school.

  i'm now on medicare and collecting social security.

  so much for their ability to see into the future.

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  Was there, read that. Followed the advise to learn a trade [truck mechanic] . Worked out great, self employed, make good money. Pay $36,000 annual alimony to ex wife who deemed her husband to be a threat to her spirituality. Pay $9,000 annual child support for #5 son who had life destroyed because his father was a apostate. I got I think 10 grandchildren although I don't know their names. Ex wife and sons have therapist's.

  1969 a magical year, lot of energy due to build up for 1975. Extensive pioneering, due to the draft. I just received my conviction for not taking community service in lieu of military induction.

  Yes I remember that exact article.
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  Russia

  by Bill Covert in

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  article in newsweek today as to russian arrests.

  it was on msm news..

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  Article in Newsweek today as to Russian Arrests. It was on MSM news.
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  Have You Been Invited To This Year’s Memorial ?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  last year was the first time i didn’t get an invitation  to the lord’s evening meal.

  i think they finally gave up on me..

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  Yes I did. A knock at my door while I was working on my project of sharing the N.Y. State Property Transfer Reports showing two billion, three hundred sixty five million, five hundred thirteen thousand dollars with the 7 Kingdom Hall's in area. As a matter of fact just got back from delivering packets to KH's so as to start their Sunday meeting on right foot.

  Had a nice visit with the 86 year old door knocker. He found no problem with the amount of Brooklyn money. He was under impression Jared Kurshner was the sole buyer, I told him Jared bought not quite half. I told him if I showed up I would be run offed.
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  Meanwhile...in Argentina

  by OrphanCrow in

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  http://www.criba.com.ar/en/works/116-asociacion-de-los-testigos-de-jehova.

  project detail.

  type: special projects.

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  Can't read Spanish. But the Sherlock Holmes famous line "elementary dear Watson" came to mind the first time I was following your post on bloodless sugary and viewed the utube of Lorenz in Argentina offering multiple multi million dollar funding. The NY State "Real Property Transfer Reports" released on this site adds up to $2,356,513,000 that is a lot of money that needs to be put to work. Rebling is a large amount money funder.
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  Meanwhile...in Argentina

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.criba.com.ar/en/works/116-asociacion-de-los-testigos-de-jehova.

  project detail.

  type: special projects.

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  See OC post on Lorenz Reibling utube clip on having multiple multi million funding for worthy projects in Argentina.
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  Jesse Smollett

  by Bill Covert in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the news northwestern memorial hospital [where jesse smollett was taken after attack], evidently fired 6 nurses for accessing jesse's file.

  i did a topic [i was unable to locate in order to bump up] on the sept.1 1987 wt.

  article "a time to speak when?

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  sir 82

  I stand corrected. It was just something that got stuck in my mind as Barbara and I were going back and forth on that article. It was a 4 year project.
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  When you were an active JW, did you ever have dealings with a pyramid scheme?

  by Tameria2001 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm not sure why this memory popped up, and i was wondering if any others, when they were still active jw had dealings with a pyramid scheme involving other witnesses in the organization?

  at the time it was 1993, and my husband and i were still newlyweds.

  once in a while, we would attend a neighboring congregation because that was where he grew up, and some of his family was still attending there at the time.

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  There was one in San Diego Ca. late 1970's early 1980's where Brooklyn sent in somebody with the power to handle the powerful and influential people involved. There were many disfellowshippings, including former circuit and district overseers, as San Diego was prime retirement area. The reason I know was that a bit player in the scheme, a Ray Dale ran out of the area to Brookings Or. to escape disfellowshipping, then to Redding Ca. who became the source of my troubles. As described in my introductory post on this site.

  Royal Flush Phil commented on the vast amount of seniors Ray swindled in the Southern Calif. area.

  A couple of years ago someone punched in Ray Dale San Diego and Google took them to this site and my first post. They were investigating the swindle of a widow in Vista Ca. They had me go to County Recorders office for records pertaining to Shasta County Superior Court case #149893 talked about in my post. That case was sealed and the widow suing Ray Dale is no longer a JW but is a counselor helping JW molestation victims. I believe Ray got licenses pertaining securities and financial planning revoked. That was in 2004. I was told Ray moved to a real estate fraud of setting up an business entity that concealed his identity. So the scam was to locate seniors with houses and offer to manage their money for them. He would talk them into selling the house as he had a buyer [himself] for under market value and charge them going rate for salesman commissions, then be able to resale house at market value. I actually filed a report with Calif. Dept of Real Estate to investigate such fraud. The criteria was very tight and a couple of weeks got a letter stating there wasn't documents that would allow for an investigation.

  Evidently a judicial committee was formed and Ray was yet again able to escape disfellowshipping as he was able to show by being able to punch in his name Google would take you to my post on this site. Hence as the source of some of the evidence used against him was derived from a well known apostate he was not disfellowshipped. Check it out your self, Google Ray Dale San Diego it will take you to this form but Ray's name was deleted from the Google heading showing Ray was aware of material source and had his name removed.

  So from that multi level marketing scheme there came out a man who has swindled widows and seniors for 35 + years.

  As to how a man can operate for that long with in this church is to understand my initial post. Understand the Wt. 1987 article "A Time to Speak When?" and how Lev.5:1 was distorted by making the "man doing the cursing" into the sinner, and making the "witness" who was the sinner into the WTBT&TS policy of informants. On this site in 2013, 2or 3 posters [along with my 5 sons] doing the posting on the convention talk "Human Apostates" reported that the discourse alerted the people to a new tactic being used by apostates. That of apostates writing letters to the peoples homes. I wrote those letters! Hundreds of them. It is the information contained in those letters pertaining to Lev.5:1 that shows the WTB&TS policy of informants to be an apostate church policy. As proven by the RNWT released that year revision of Lev.5:1. Barbara Andersons article " Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminals", Ray Dale was the criminal. Also at issue was Isa.1:23 and the sin of simony. As Ray was the 'sugar daddy' to the traveling men. To of removed Ray Dale would of given substance to 30 years of protest on my part.

  So yes I am well aware of multi level marketing schemes .

  If you are not interested in reading my posts or Barbara Anderson article "Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminals" don't ask me to explain.

  Bill
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  Jesse Smollett

  by Bill Covert in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the news northwestern memorial hospital [where jesse smollett was taken after attack], evidently fired 6 nurses for accessing jesse's file.

  i did a topic [i was unable to locate in order to bump up] on the sept.1 1987 wt.

  article "a time to speak when?

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  Source Barbara Anderson